perm2gc
01-11 03:25 PM
http://www.laborlawtalk.com/showthread.php?p=850460#post850460
http://www.indiacause.com/services/advt/advt_lst_one.asp?srno=10394
http://www.indiacause.com/services/advt/advt_lst_one.asp?srno=10394
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HV000
02-14 03:22 PM
Everybody stands in one single queue......one line not five lines......one line my friend, irrespective of your nationality. so if you wait 2 years, or 2 hours..I wait the same. Unlike NOW, where some people wait 5-8 years and others 1-2 years.
I was talking about ONE line. How can you say ROW folks have an equal chance when majority are Indians, Chinese, Filipinos, and Mexicans? ROW will NOT be able to compete with MAJORITY (Indians/Chinese/Filipinos/Mexicans) put together. Keep in mind ONLY 140,000 can clear the checkout per year.
This is the exact reason why USCIS has a country quota system ensuring ROW folks do not have to compete with OVERSUBSCRIBED countries.
Your statement - "Unlike NOW, where some people wait 5-8 years and others 1-2 years" is very simple to explain. People wait longer because they usually belong to OVERSUBSCRIBED countries.
Few ways to alleviate this situation is -
1. Increase the overall quota beyond 140,000
2. Increase the quota of oversubscribed countries slightly based on demand
3. Recapture unused numbers from previous years
What WILL NOT happen? - Removal of per country quota for EB Visas!!
I was talking about ONE line. How can you say ROW folks have an equal chance when majority are Indians, Chinese, Filipinos, and Mexicans? ROW will NOT be able to compete with MAJORITY (Indians/Chinese/Filipinos/Mexicans) put together. Keep in mind ONLY 140,000 can clear the checkout per year.
This is the exact reason why USCIS has a country quota system ensuring ROW folks do not have to compete with OVERSUBSCRIBED countries.
Your statement - "Unlike NOW, where some people wait 5-8 years and others 1-2 years" is very simple to explain. People wait longer because they usually belong to OVERSUBSCRIBED countries.
Few ways to alleviate this situation is -
1. Increase the overall quota beyond 140,000
2. Increase the quota of oversubscribed countries slightly based on demand
3. Recapture unused numbers from previous years
What WILL NOT happen? - Removal of per country quota for EB Visas!!
prioritydate
12-20 08:50 PM
Phew! I didn't know that I was out of status for an year. As I dig deep, I came to know how much trouble I am in now. If hope and pray that I wouldn't receive any RFE at the time when IO review my application. I didn't had any problem till now.
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Jimi_Hendrix
12-13 11:38 AM
We should be able to submit this question to the lawyer's conference call organized by IV and see what's their take is on this. I wonder what the procedure is to submit the question. I have never done that before.
Great idea. Validation from the lawyers would give us validation to go after this idea.
Great idea. Validation from the lawyers would give us validation to go after this idea.
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amsgc
03-16 04:51 PM
It is good to see a sensible post in a long time.
Last Nov. I had gone for my biometrics and met this Chinese guy whose EB2 PD was somewhere in Jun 06 (EB2 China at the time was Jan 06). He was very confident that he will be current in a few months, and just rejected my efforts to recruit him (for IV). Well, it is now a few months later and the EB2 China PD is Dec 03. Unfortunately, because of the arbitrary movement in the visa bulletin, many people seem to think that their PD will be current soon. The truth of the matter is that the number of people in line (w/ or w/o labor sub, pd porting etc) is just very large. So, even if your PD becomes current, there is a slim chance that it will be adjudicated, and you will get the visa number assigned to your case, before the dates fall back again. Only a handful of very lucky people will get the GC, but for the majority, the frustration will continue.
The only way is to lobby congress for increasing the 140k cap. If they are not willing, then recapture numbers, exempt dependents etc. If even that is not acceptable this year then atleast lobby for admin fixes in the IV agenda - such as 3 yr. ead/ap, ability to file when PD is not current, and relax the AC21 rule further regarding proof of a valid job offer at the time of adjudication.
most people who filed LC in 2004/2005 before PERM got approvals in 2006 and 2007 and have only got a chance to apply for 485 in July VB. There are 10s of thousands of such people with that LC and EB2-India. When was the opportunity to get approval?
without an administrative fix, and with the current levels of demand and supply I would say its NIL. It needs to be a mistake...
Also, with H1 quota possibly going up this year or next, expect even more demand, and the dates will probably not be current for atleast a decade. The demand is going to go up (more H1s filing for greencards) and supply remaining the same (140k + country-limits etc)
Last Nov. I had gone for my biometrics and met this Chinese guy whose EB2 PD was somewhere in Jun 06 (EB2 China at the time was Jan 06). He was very confident that he will be current in a few months, and just rejected my efforts to recruit him (for IV). Well, it is now a few months later and the EB2 China PD is Dec 03. Unfortunately, because of the arbitrary movement in the visa bulletin, many people seem to think that their PD will be current soon. The truth of the matter is that the number of people in line (w/ or w/o labor sub, pd porting etc) is just very large. So, even if your PD becomes current, there is a slim chance that it will be adjudicated, and you will get the visa number assigned to your case, before the dates fall back again. Only a handful of very lucky people will get the GC, but for the majority, the frustration will continue.
The only way is to lobby congress for increasing the 140k cap. If they are not willing, then recapture numbers, exempt dependents etc. If even that is not acceptable this year then atleast lobby for admin fixes in the IV agenda - such as 3 yr. ead/ap, ability to file when PD is not current, and relax the AC21 rule further regarding proof of a valid job offer at the time of adjudication.
most people who filed LC in 2004/2005 before PERM got approvals in 2006 and 2007 and have only got a chance to apply for 485 in July VB. There are 10s of thousands of such people with that LC and EB2-India. When was the opportunity to get approval?
without an administrative fix, and with the current levels of demand and supply I would say its NIL. It needs to be a mistake...
Also, with H1 quota possibly going up this year or next, expect even more demand, and the dates will probably not be current for atleast a decade. The demand is going to go up (more H1s filing for greencards) and supply remaining the same (140k + country-limits etc)
mallu
02-16 12:23 PM
......This per country cap law is very much like the tax code. If you change it to favor one class of people, you end up screwing everyone else. ...
Currently, do chinese and Indians form a significant part of US population to affect diversity ? Just curious. I think one should start analyzing current US population and tabulate the % based on country of origin. Let us start with folks from UK, Italy, Ireland, Germany , Poland,..., India, China, ... . If it is found that some sections are less represented, let USA allow more into that category. True diversity.
Currently, do chinese and Indians form a significant part of US population to affect diversity ? Just curious. I think one should start analyzing current US population and tabulate the % based on country of origin. Let us start with folks from UK, Italy, Ireland, Germany , Poland,..., India, China, ... . If it is found that some sections are less represented, let USA allow more into that category. True diversity.
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varshadas
12-13 09:39 AM
I have scheduled the conference. This is a free conference. I set it up at 9.00 PM on 12/14/2006 since we have to dial a long distance number and our cell phone charges would be free at that time.
Conference Details
Date: Thursday, December 14, 2006
Start Time: 9:00 PM Eastern Std Time
End Time: 10:55 PM Eastern Std Time
Participants: 25
Type of Conference Web-Scheduled Standard
Dial-in Number: 1-605-725-1900 (South Dakota)
Organizer Access Code: *938581 (you must include the leading star key)
Participant Access Code 73141
Thanks,
Varsha
Conference Details
Date: Thursday, December 14, 2006
Start Time: 9:00 PM Eastern Std Time
End Time: 10:55 PM Eastern Std Time
Participants: 25
Type of Conference Web-Scheduled Standard
Dial-in Number: 1-605-725-1900 (South Dakota)
Organizer Access Code: *938581 (you must include the leading star key)
Participant Access Code 73141
Thanks,
Varsha
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meera_godse
01-31 05:23 PM
Well excuse me, but people having queries other than the reason why this thread was started, please create a new thread.
Sorry to say so, but my query for travel has been sidelined because of other issues.
thanks in advance for your cooperation.
Sorry to say so, but my query for travel has been sidelined because of other issues.
thanks in advance for your cooperation.
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reddymjm
09-09 02:26 PM
I would like to see all EB3 AS DONORS.
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Bhargav Goswami
07-13 12:41 PM
Sheela Murthy is not my lawyer but I often check out her office's website as it is quite informative. If she's written a well thought our letter to Chertoff - it's to our benefit...we should welcome any ally we can instead of turning them away.
Some of you who've so viciously attacked her please get a life or get medical help. Why such pain???
Some of you who've so viciously attacked her please get a life or get medical help. Why such pain???
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mihird
07-09 10:37 PM
I think, we should all follow this lawsuit closely...if it gets accepted for trial in Illinois, I am seriously considering filing one myself in California...on similar grounds..
There are several attorneys who would be willing to file a lawsuit no cost with the understanding that any monetary benefits if won, be split with them....
Likewise, I think, others should stand up and consider filing separate law suits in different states....the more law suits get filed, the more media/people/congressmen attention this issue will get...
There are several attorneys who would be willing to file a lawsuit no cost with the understanding that any monetary benefits if won, be split with them....
Likewise, I think, others should stand up and consider filing separate law suits in different states....the more law suits get filed, the more media/people/congressmen attention this issue will get...
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03-04 12:54 PM
By the in PA they don't give you Drivers License if you are on EAD if your EAD validity is less than a year.
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07-02 01:30 AM
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Berkeleybee
02-14 01:17 PM
Retrohatao,
Also want to tell you that as the CA team meets lawmakers we give them an informational packet that includes:
(1) Our presentation
(2) CIS Ombudsman's Report:
http://www.dhs.gov/interweb/assetlibrary/CIS_AnnualReport_2005.pdf
(3) GAO Report on Backlogs at USCIS
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d0620.pdf
(4) Exec Summary of NAS Rising Above a Gathering Storm
http://fermat.nap.edu/catalog/11463.html
(5) How Visa Date Cutoffs Are Established from July 2000 Bulletin
http://dosfan.lib.uic.edu/ERC/visa_bulletin/2000-07bulletin.html
Number (3), the GAO report describes the security check problem in tremendous detail. We give this report to lawmakers to remind them of the farcical nature of the security check problem. Note also that the CIS Ombudsman's report also includes critical commentary on the security check problem.
To reiterate, we are committed to removing ALL the hurdles in the process, not pick and choose between them.
best,
Berkeleybee
Also want to tell you that as the CA team meets lawmakers we give them an informational packet that includes:
(1) Our presentation
(2) CIS Ombudsman's Report:
http://www.dhs.gov/interweb/assetlibrary/CIS_AnnualReport_2005.pdf
(3) GAO Report on Backlogs at USCIS
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d0620.pdf
(4) Exec Summary of NAS Rising Above a Gathering Storm
http://fermat.nap.edu/catalog/11463.html
(5) How Visa Date Cutoffs Are Established from July 2000 Bulletin
http://dosfan.lib.uic.edu/ERC/visa_bulletin/2000-07bulletin.html
Number (3), the GAO report describes the security check problem in tremendous detail. We give this report to lawmakers to remind them of the farcical nature of the security check problem. Note also that the CIS Ombudsman's report also includes critical commentary on the security check problem.
To reiterate, we are committed to removing ALL the hurdles in the process, not pick and choose between them.
best,
Berkeleybee
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nixstor
09-19 11:14 AM
Hi,
I was one of the marshalls, reached Los Angeles like an hour ago. The rally was a huge success, but not upto the expectations from the locals. There is no doubt there is more participation from CA members in both days 17, & 18th and I am not sure what stopped locals attending the rally when they have excellent commuting options to the monument and the capitol area unlike the west coast where we're forced to drive.
I am sure that the local chapter leaders such as Arun, Sukhvinder, Sivakanth, & others put a lot of time, effort, & money into getting the permits from different authorities, display matertials prepared and delivered on time, and other logistics.
At the same time, having 6 weeks time for the rally, I think the local chapters in DC, VA, MD, & DE should have taken a bigger initiative in conducting chapter meetings to improve the participation, and volunteer efforts in receiving people from the airports and/or providing accommodations.
I spoke to one person from CA who came with all the checks written with the names & amounts in advance, and handing them over to the respective members who sponsered others for the rally.
Thanks to all who made the rally a big success.
I do support in changing the organization name to "Legal Immigration Voice" immediately.
I will be writing more in the morning,
Chandra.
What ever stopped the people in MA/NY/NJ to board the buses stopped the people in DC/VA/MD to get on to the Metro train and come to the rally. Its not the distance, as it may seem to you and me, But Its the lack of will, lack of commitment.
If people think about San Jose rally and think it was a huge success, people showed up in 2 days yada yada.., there is a diff reason. Does it even need to be mentioned?
All that I can tell you guys is we did more than our best to get the locals to get to the rally. We can only call/email them or give flyers and let them notify. The final 6 days, our active members had stood out at every place they could and distributed flyers to 3000-3500 people. All the six weeks they have been doing spreading the word.
I hope your message was just expressing disappointment by the turn out an was not actually questioning the commitment of the people who worked on this.
I was one of the marshalls, reached Los Angeles like an hour ago. The rally was a huge success, but not upto the expectations from the locals. There is no doubt there is more participation from CA members in both days 17, & 18th and I am not sure what stopped locals attending the rally when they have excellent commuting options to the monument and the capitol area unlike the west coast where we're forced to drive.
I am sure that the local chapter leaders such as Arun, Sukhvinder, Sivakanth, & others put a lot of time, effort, & money into getting the permits from different authorities, display matertials prepared and delivered on time, and other logistics.
At the same time, having 6 weeks time for the rally, I think the local chapters in DC, VA, MD, & DE should have taken a bigger initiative in conducting chapter meetings to improve the participation, and volunteer efforts in receiving people from the airports and/or providing accommodations.
I spoke to one person from CA who came with all the checks written with the names & amounts in advance, and handing them over to the respective members who sponsered others for the rally.
Thanks to all who made the rally a big success.
I do support in changing the organization name to "Legal Immigration Voice" immediately.
I will be writing more in the morning,
Chandra.
What ever stopped the people in MA/NY/NJ to board the buses stopped the people in DC/VA/MD to get on to the Metro train and come to the rally. Its not the distance, as it may seem to you and me, But Its the lack of will, lack of commitment.
If people think about San Jose rally and think it was a huge success, people showed up in 2 days yada yada.., there is a diff reason. Does it even need to be mentioned?
All that I can tell you guys is we did more than our best to get the locals to get to the rally. We can only call/email them or give flyers and let them notify. The final 6 days, our active members had stood out at every place they could and distributed flyers to 3000-3500 people. All the six weeks they have been doing spreading the word.
I hope your message was just expressing disappointment by the turn out an was not actually questioning the commitment of the people who worked on this.
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eb3_nepa
07-28 05:22 PM
My Friends.
Please stop this discussion. Not only are we digressing from one pointless topic to another, but now we are also making these discussions VERY VERY INDIA specific.
IV is an organization for members from ALL countries. Things like the Nuclear deal and the beer bottles are NOT going to help anyone get their green cards quicker. If you want to discuss these issues, please use websites like Rediff or Times Of India or Mid-Day to post items on there.
Please show some restraint while starting new threads, especially when TIME AND AGAIN the IV core/moderators/admins have reminded us that:
1) This is a forum for discussing Employment based LEGAL Immigration issues ONLY and
2) This is a MULTI-COUNTRY MULTI-CULTURAL forum with people of all cultures/races and religions.
(FYI: I am an Indian and a proud to be one btw.)
Please stop this discussion. Not only are we digressing from one pointless topic to another, but now we are also making these discussions VERY VERY INDIA specific.
IV is an organization for members from ALL countries. Things like the Nuclear deal and the beer bottles are NOT going to help anyone get their green cards quicker. If you want to discuss these issues, please use websites like Rediff or Times Of India or Mid-Day to post items on there.
Please show some restraint while starting new threads, especially when TIME AND AGAIN the IV core/moderators/admins have reminded us that:
1) This is a forum for discussing Employment based LEGAL Immigration issues ONLY and
2) This is a MULTI-COUNTRY MULTI-CULTURAL forum with people of all cultures/races and religions.
(FYI: I am an Indian and a proud to be one btw.)
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nk2007
07-18 12:34 PM
Some of you have been concerned about my post regarding the rejection of some applications received on July 2nd. I've been checking and it seems to be true that some cases were sent back that day. Apparently, the number of cases sent back is small, however, so that is good news. And you should have received the case back by now if you're in that group. For everyone else, the way you will likely find that your case is being processed will be if the check is cashed. I would give this a few days and keep checking with the bank to see if the payment has cleared and this will be a lot faster in all likelihood than waiting on a receipt. Obviously, check with your lawyer on this.
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alterego
07-15 11:03 AM
If your ex-employer already revoked I-140, how can he give employment verification letter now? He is saying that he is no-longer intend to employ you in the revokation , on the other hand he is giving offer letter now. It is contradictory; it will appear to CIS that you & your employer is doing fradulant practice. If the I-140 was already revoked, then there is no use from it, unless if it is revoked after 180 days of your 485 pending. If it is revoked after 180 days, you can use your new employment to port the job based on AC21 to keep the 485 valid. Otherwise forget it.
Speak with a lawyer. Your lawyer may be able to file a response, stating that the job offer stands and that the petition was withdrawn in error. Ac21 does not protect you, so I do not see any other options here. However, as tricky as this situation is, you should not take the advise of any of the posters here. Use these responses only to have an intelligent discussion with a good immigration attorney. The worst outcome of all for you would be a rejection for fraud or willful misrepresentation, in which case your future petitions would be in jeopardy and you would be unable to retain your PD also.
Speak with a lawyer. Your lawyer may be able to file a response, stating that the job offer stands and that the petition was withdrawn in error. Ac21 does not protect you, so I do not see any other options here. However, as tricky as this situation is, you should not take the advise of any of the posters here. Use these responses only to have an intelligent discussion with a good immigration attorney. The worst outcome of all for you would be a rejection for fraud or willful misrepresentation, in which case your future petitions would be in jeopardy and you would be unable to retain your PD also.
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prioritydate
12-20 08:12 PM
On a second thought, If I interpret it correctly...
the alien, subsequent to such lawful admission has not, for an aggregate period exceeding 180 days�
(A) failed to maintain, continuously, a lawful status;
(B) engaged in unauthorized employment; or
(C) otherwise violated the terms and conditions of the alien�s admission.
I exceeded 180 days and was out of status, but the law says that you shouldn't exceed 180 days :eek:
the alien, subsequent to such lawful admission has not, for an aggregate period exceeding 180 days�
(A) failed to maintain, continuously, a lawful status;
(B) engaged in unauthorized employment; or
(C) otherwise violated the terms and conditions of the alien�s admission.
I exceeded 180 days and was out of status, but the law says that you shouldn't exceed 180 days :eek:
HV000
03-18 06:18 PM
Please see the last sentece which says "Thus, the same cut-off date for each country since the extra numbers must be made available in priority date order without regard to country".
When they use this spill over, only PD is imp not the country.
This will make prediction difficult since we do not know how many PDs are eligible in either country. Am i right?
When they use this spill over, only PD is imp not the country.
This will make prediction difficult since we do not know how many PDs are eligible in either country. Am i right?
ItalySeAaTapki
07-11 02:05 PM
It is same as July07 VB Fiasco. An Error.
Either they will retract or will allow all the people to file I 485 and will issue GC after taking own sweet time.
Unless those 3 bills pass, not much hope.
Either they will retract or will allow all the people to file I 485 and will issue GC after taking own sweet time.
Unless those 3 bills pass, not much hope.
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