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  • BharatPremi
    09-25 06:05 PM
    Pre-adjudication means that this particular case can be approved because everything else (Biometrics, Name-checks and all other checks/documentation) is in place - but a Visa Number is not available to approve case and issue GC

    Earlier, USCIS wouldnt even touch a file and complete checks if the PD wasnt current. Now they pre-adjudicate - meaning they look at the case and determine if the case can be approved if the PD were current.....

    Assigning a Visa Number is basically same as giving GC...once a visa number is assigned, all they have to do is order the production of the physical card...which happens in a few days and in another couple of weeks you actually get the card

    Agree..about the clear definition of Pre-adjudication. But main question was about the accurate count of "Real pending" 485 which equals to "other pending" + "preadjudicated" + "awaiting cutomer response" + "new receipt" when you refer to USCIS's trend/volume charts.
    While the other worksheet in the thread seems to be depicting the closet values to "other pending" of a trnd chart so that worksheet can not be considered authentic for a total count of "real pending" 485 cases.





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  • whatamidoinghere
    02-19 03:01 AM
    Well discussion here. Under present situation (w/o any legislative relief) labor certification based EB folks, particulary Indians, cannot think of GC/485 for next 10 years. The problem here is, they are stopping the flood gate in 485 stage. If they (CIS/DOS) do not need high skilled immigrants, stop them in LC stage itself. Testing labor market in 2001, for a permanent job that is going to be assumed by a foreign worker only in (after 485 approval) 2010 is a joke. The best slution is market based numarical limitation without any country quota.

    Yeah its a joke and it is obvious to us that there should be legislation to fix this. However the current situation is so beneficial to the US that it may be stupid for them to try and fix it. The lack of immigrant visas isn't bringing anything down. Fresh H1B and L1 workers will continue to pour into the country and "old, stale, spent, burnt out, balding" workers will leave the country frustrated with the wait. The scientists and executives whose experience is useful to have will get into EB1 slots and stay.

    So two choices
    1. Lets continue to pay income tax, pay social security tax, spend the prime of our lives working here and then GET OUT when we are no longer needed.. OR..
    2. Lobby hard, for which we should contribute some serious money to IV. Whats holding back the EB3 folks?? the doors are almost closed for them. They should be contributing in large numbers..

    EB2 Ind & Chi.. if dates dont move for April (new calendar quarter), we better start contributing too





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  • krisganta
    09-04 10:51 AM
    I agree..admin please delete this thread. This has nothing to do with the immigration issues that we are facing.





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  • ujjwal_p
    05-11 09:15 PM
    Thanks for being the self-designated, unpaid spokesperson for "we indians" and keeping track of accountable indians :)

    Nice one. I'll take that dig.



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  • ivar
    06-15 05:55 PM
    Ivar and group,

    I think you guys are missing the plot here. Let me reiterate loud and clear. I am NOT against immigrants getting GC. I will not, even in my wildest dreams, claim that the recession is due to the H1Bs and L1s. That is complete baloney spread around by the anti immigrant lobby. My point is let the deserving the GCs soon and not go thru the mindless wait I went thru.

    Having said that I am for the following :

    1. If the outsourcing companies would pay on an avg at 80K per head for the "well qualified" people, I am even ok with their dumping their dumping the L1s here. Why is it that you guys are ok with the L1s being dumped at 40K-60K salaries ? Shuldn't they get paid high too ? This is what I am arguing for. If the outsourcing cos dont want to pay this rate, then keep them in the country of origin. No need to depress wages here. Is this a wrong thing to ask ?

    2. Grassley's bill may force some companies to move entirely to India or China. Isnt that good for India and China ? Why are the pro immigrants against this ? Some times I get the feeling as to who actually is pro and who is anti immigrant !!!! In adition, it may eliminate the many backlogs and help the deserving people here.

    3. People who have made a conscious decision to immigrate here have done so considering the standard of living as one of the primary factors in their decisions. In order to enjoy this standard of living, people have to constantly upgrade skillsets to remain competitive in an industry or move to another industry where mass interest is relatively low. Why should these people's lives, after all the travails, be impacted by the low wage scum outsourcing companies. Please remember these companies, like an other company on earth, operate only on self interest. No point in supporting such companies which in adition to the self interest principle also flout rules with abandon.

    4. In my opinion, self interest has alwyas resulted in the greater good of society. Do not confuse self interest with greed. Greed is what caused this financial mess. If people/companies operated with concern for greater societal good, they would have spent billions in concocting an AIDS vaccine for the children in Africa than to spend the same billions in concocting VIAGRA for the rich old men. Since employment based immigration debate involves companies' interests too, we have to balance societal good with some impact for the companies. My suggestion here is that let the outsourcers take the hit. They have always benefitted by flouting the rules. If your concern is way too high for your L1 brothers then you would find it prudent to bring in the law that clearly states "Pay high wages for the L1s or dont bring them in here". I dont understand what is wrong here ? Is it that I didnt convey my message across right or is it that people blindly support immigration ?


    As i said earlier i agree with you on few points but not all. I have an idea how L1s have been misused to bring in cheap labor but we can't blame them, its the system what allows them to do so. I am not blindly supporting L1s here but its simple demand supply ratio. When i started my engineering in india everyone use to opt for Mechanical engineering which was in great demand those days, its a cycle, Mechanical went down and later IT surged so believe me we are also in this cycle.. some day IT demand will also fade and there will be very limited opportunities available and there will be huge supply of IT engineers (ofcourse highly skilled and talented). The end result is lower wages. People starting their careers NOW should focus in future and what will be the next sector for great job opportunities rather than follow the crowd. We are almost half way through our career, some still have the energy and enthusiasm to upgrade or totally opt for a new career, while some stick to the same old thing.. its a choice we make and the result we get based on our choices.

    Standard of living ofcourse matters and is one of the important factor for coming to US but this has gone down recently not due to IT workers but due to US economy which shrinked at such great pace and trillions of debt US is carrying with it.. it had to happen as i said earlier there are lot of factors contributed for bringing down the standard of living.

    Lastly as you said the best to get their GC first.. agreed !! now how will you determine who are the best of the best.. points system?? or create more Employment based visa categories like EB1.1 for rocket scientist, EB 1.2 for PHd with 10 years and so on.. and do you think immigration system will get into this minute details. There are already three categories EB1 for best of the best followed by EB2 and EB3 and so on..(thats how US immigration does it). that doesn't mean EB3 are less talented people than EB2.. it is the circumstances you face while filing your GC. The problem is who will use the scale to check who deserves GC first and how they will judge who needs GC first based on what factors, protectionist attitude is not the solution and never going to help.. I hope i make my point.





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  • sumitpendharkar
    06-28 06:08 PM
    Visa Bulletin April 2007
    PD for Other workers category was 01 Oct 2001

    E. VISA AVAILABILITY DURING THE COMING MONTHS

    Employment-based: It is likely that the Employment Third Preference �Other Worker� (EW) category will become unavailable beginning in May.

    Both of these issues are the direct result of low annual limits and very heavy demand for numbers, primarily for adjustment of status cases at Citizenship and Immigration Services Offices.

    Visa Bulletin for May 2007
    PD for Other workers category was U (unavailable)

    E. EMPLOYMENT THIRD PREFERENCE �OTHER WORKER� CATEGORY BECOMES �UNAVAILABLE� FOR MAY

    The Employment Third Preference �Other Worker� category is expected to reach the annual numerical limit during April. As a result, the category will become �Unavailable� beginning in May and will remain so for the remainder of FY-2007.

    Visa Bulletin for June 2007
    PD for Other workers category was 01 Oct 2001

    D. EMPLOYMENT THIRD PREFERENCE �OTHER WORKER� CATEGORY FOR JUNE

    A few �Other Worker� numbers which had been allocated for April were returned unused at the end of the month. As a result, a very small June allocation has been possible, for applicants with priority dates before October 1, 2001. The category will become �Unavailable� once again beginning in July and will remain so for the remainder of FY-2007.


    So the VB does in fact indicate that there is only a "small June allocation" possible.



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  • the_googly
    07-29 09:33 AM
    I expect 1/2 of the approvals to be EB2-I and the rest EB2-C.





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  • raydon
    08-16 09:36 PM
    How is debating about this detention going to do anything for immigration? And things could get worse for immigrants on the health care front if they lose their jobs, if this article is to be believed (the venom against immigrants in the comments section is just too much)

    30,000 immigrants to soon lose state health insurance - The Boston Globe (http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/08/15/30000_immigrants_to_soon_lose_state_health_insuran ce/)



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  • sumagiri
    09-28 11:04 AM
    I don't think in any year EB2ROW has got 40K GC in the past, even when the economy was in good shape.

    Does anyone has links for the annual GC issuance per country/per category for 2008. I missed the link.

    The worst case scenario would be 20,000 max. That means EB2(I) will move to Mid or3 rd quarter of 2006 by end of 2010.

    Sachug22, that is very good info. Thanks for posting this and giving you green.

    A minor correction though.
    I read some where that the avg PERM time is now 9 months. Also, we know that the average time for GC processing (getting receipts, appointment for finger prints, name check etc) is about 3 months. And then sure there is time lag for any one between PERM and I-140/I-485. So we should exclude the PERMS filed in last quarter because by the time, those are eligible for AOS adjudication, most probably they fall in to yr 2011.





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  • rahulpaper
    06-27 09:26 PM
    Based on this, I have again (yes, again) emailed by immigration lawyer and sent him the AILA's URL (although I cant see it coz I am not member of AILA).

    IF AILA reports that they stopped accepting new 485 petitions for EB3-other, then it is pretty freaking scary and that means that what my lawyer told me "I cant happen, bla bla bla..." is really not 100% accurate. If it happened in June, it can happen in July. This is now REALLLLY SCARY, coz my lawyer has plans for July-end for filing.

    Ever since the dates got current, it has been more stressful than the time when dates were retrogressed and almost makes me miss the retrogression days when I didnt have to depend on the lawyers for my career.

    It is indeed scary...I guess rumors can come to haunt us...I know that mine is not going in before mid july...we are seeing that is visible but doesnt exist...May be august bulletin (like predicted by USCIS) will still be "C"....GOOD LUCK to all. Irony of life is...all my life i gave exams in an effort to not get a "C"....and now all i pray for is just another "C"...



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  • jkays94
    07-11 10:00 PM
    One of my friend was so frustated with this situtation , that he even explored IT jobs in gulf countries.He was telling me IBM has big presence there & with US experience , you can get manaegerial position with almost double salary.Also its nearer from India.


    Not to mention that if the offer is good and depending on the country, it is not uncommon to get a tax free salary, housing, 2 round trip tickets to one's home country for the individual and their family, in essence your major cost will likely just be food!





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  • snathan
    08-16 11:28 AM
    I never worship any actor. But now I dont even have any respect for this stupid SRK. If he doesnt like to step on american soil again, I am very glad. This moron thinks american economy will plunge into recession again if he is not coming to america. Atleast salman kahn makes some sensible comment.



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  • new2gc
    09-04 01:53 PM
    You dont even talk about my village even in your dreams.. Our village is much happier than before 5 years.. Its all becuase of YSR did for our village.

    Looks like Your village might not have any resources to loot, so has shown some work which would have benefited few people (Like you).

    As some other member mentioned that Jesus is angry on him, Not only Jesus, even Lord Venkateswara was also angry because even after converting to Christan, he took all the honors that chief of the state would get at Tirumala. Also, one can clearly see in Tirumala the way the whole administration behave during YSR regime compared to NTR/NCB regime. One can only experience, cannot explain..it will lengthy story...

    His polices like, Govt money for Vatican trips and causing lot of grievence to the devotees in Tirumala should also be considered to evaluate his attitude, don't just go with TV news.

    When Chiru campaigned for PPP, there were millions of people attended his meetings, but we all know what the result was.

    So, just think like 1 corrupt politician down many left and move on. No more arguments.





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  • miguy
    03-20 08:10 AM
    Please see answers in blue below


    You are welcome.


    As much as I see you guys choosing Canada as an option, I also see you misusing that option. If you really want to select Canada as an option then you are better of moving to Windsor and working in Detroit. If you show a canadian address (that means you are living in canada), you should also pay canadian taxes (based on your US income). Just showing a canadian address is no good if you don't pay canadian taxes.



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  • god_bless_you
    10-23 02:33 PM
    Hello everyone.

    I was wondering if someone could point me to how exactly labor substitution works.

    Before anyone starts jumping down my throat, i am JUST looking for documentation on the full process and I DID try looking on the google.

    If someone has any article on labor substitution and how it works please post it on here.

    Check Immigration Portal forums Labor certification .. Preapproved LC
    Labor substitution Pros Con's etc.. widely discussed there...

    http://www.immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?t=123495





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  • tikka
    07-03 11:21 PM
    http://digg.com/politics/USCIS_Visa_scandal (http://digg.com/politics/USCIS_Visa_scandal)


    Guys, we are all computer friendly unlike our previous generation,lets use the internet to the fullest.

    Please dig the link so ppl understand the scenario and making the news sensational but true helps!! Please add your comments to the blog ,hopefully,not 2 frustrated :)

    pls check...



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  • agiridhar
    04-29 01:20 AM
    Indeed good for the community.
    wouldn't it be even better when investigations are carried out on the substitued cases and action be taken on employers and their law firms ?
    Wouldn't it be better to bring a law to prohibit employer's taking money from the employees to file h1's and gc's ?
    Not sure what kind of a law could police/monitor an employer taking cash from the employee ?

    Any thots ?





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  • msp1976
    02-15 11:29 AM
    longg and msp1976, Could you update your profile with contact information. IV can use your skills.

    I have added cell phone number in my profile....





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  • Marphad
    06-16 04:33 PM
    Nice well thought out arguments. This is the essence of a healthy debate.

    Guys,

    I don't understand why we are doing this debate. Dilip (citizen's representative - dilipcr) feels that living standard is going down coz of H1 & L1 people and not because of 2 wars we are fighting. He needs help. You can do it by not answering him.

    PLEASE STOP!





    hydboy77
    09-23 06:13 PM
    The only missing information to give an almost 90% accurate prediction of the visa bulletin movement are
    1. Will DOS do spillover every quarter or only once every year?
    2. What would be the number of eb2 and eb1 visa demand from ROW from October 2009 to September 2010?

    the answer to question 2 can be obtained by getting the number of pending PERM Eb2 petitions with DOL, if we get the answer to question 1 from DOS then we can predict the visa bulletin with almost 90% + accuracy.

    I don’t think DOS will do a quarter spillover. If DOS does not do a quarter spillover then it will disastrous for EB2 India because if DOL releases a ton of pending EB2 ROW perm applications they have been holding up for over an year in June-July-august 2010 time then DOS might not do a spillover at all for Eb2 India.


    Thanks Sachug22.

    Dec 2009 Visa Bulletin & Jan 2010 Visa Bulletin should give us clear picture about EB2 - I forward movement (if USCIS does spill over every Quarter this fiscal year - Most likely I expect the spill over to occur every Quarter this fiscal year).

    Other important indicator would be the spillover received by Eb2 - I till Sep 2009. If spillover is more(clearing majority of 2004 - Jan 2005 cases) that would be the best case scenario.

    Overall things look very positive.





    shukla77
    05-29 04:38 PM
    Following is my small idea

    -Let us only 100-150 people work on this. More than that is unlikely among us united high skilled immigrants:)
    - Send 5 letters every weekend.Send one letter to president and 4 to different senators/House of rep..Not email but regular mail.
    -continue on this for next 3 months
    ( Key is to keep doing this every weekend 3-4 Months)



    To start with i suggest on having a separate quota (not counted towards 140,000) for Masters/PhD students. That should ease most of the pain.

    If anybody has other bright ideas, feel free

    Channel your outrage on a positive action item



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