somegchuh
11-18 02:41 AM
I just wanted to get this discussion back on track of ppl wanting to be able rise up a little, let their wives work and feel the freedom to make a decision to go back.
Let me restart the discussion. I know we are all frustrated to the extent that we want to pack up and leave but we have invested too much time to do that. But let's assume things start moving and we get our GC's in a year or so. Having spent so many years waiting to "settle" would you be willing to unsettle your life again and start over in a country that you left more than a decade ago.
Note that I am not doubting anyone's intention or disrespecting any entry. Just wondering if its the frustation talking or there are ppl who would actually leave?
Let me restart the discussion. I know we are all frustrated to the extent that we want to pack up and leave but we have invested too much time to do that. But let's assume things start moving and we get our GC's in a year or so. Having spent so many years waiting to "settle" would you be willing to unsettle your life again and start over in a country that you left more than a decade ago.
Note that I am not doubting anyone's intention or disrespecting any entry. Just wondering if its the frustation talking or there are ppl who would actually leave?
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crazyghoda
01-14 08:09 PM
I dont think this bills has anything favourable to legal immigrants... It better to apply as the other category ....
I think someone finally saw the light here.
Cant you guys see the HUGE change that this is. Get out of the whole legal-illegal pissing match. This change will make the US immigration system in line with that of the UK. You get here. You stay here for 5 years. You apply and be granted Permanent Residency. Thats it.
Will that open the floodgates? Sure they will. How will they be countered? By making it very very difficult for employers to hire foreigners. If you are already here, you are fine.
Employers who hire illegal folks will face tough sanctions. the new eVerify system will probably now be mandatory for all. That takes care of those employers who were in the Dont ask, Dont tell (not talking about the military policy towards gays here) attitude. It wont weed out everyone and there will still be some guys who will work for cash, etc but it will reduce this significantly.
Employers who abuse the H1 system will now have to do lots more to prove that they couldnt find a qualified US worker. The desi employers that everyone loves to hate will find it very hard to stay in business anymore.
The big IT companies like TCS and Patni who pay 40-50K to someone with 7 yrs of work exp (like I was) will now be forced to hire from the US market thus eliminating the chances of abuse. Unfortunately it will depress IT wages in India because these biggies will need to show some kind of cost savings to do work offshore otherwise most companies will decide to bring the work back since its just not worth it to handle the hassles of offshore work. But overall it will bring some kind of balance.
All a person now will need to do is get here and manage to hold on to some job for 5 years and you will be through.
Lets see how much of this bill actually makes it out. As far as I can see, I am prefectly fine with refiling my application under this new category. The hell with EB based green cards. USCIS can take the whole EB1-EB2-EB3 and stick it where it belongs.
I think someone finally saw the light here.
Cant you guys see the HUGE change that this is. Get out of the whole legal-illegal pissing match. This change will make the US immigration system in line with that of the UK. You get here. You stay here for 5 years. You apply and be granted Permanent Residency. Thats it.
Will that open the floodgates? Sure they will. How will they be countered? By making it very very difficult for employers to hire foreigners. If you are already here, you are fine.
Employers who hire illegal folks will face tough sanctions. the new eVerify system will probably now be mandatory for all. That takes care of those employers who were in the Dont ask, Dont tell (not talking about the military policy towards gays here) attitude. It wont weed out everyone and there will still be some guys who will work for cash, etc but it will reduce this significantly.
Employers who abuse the H1 system will now have to do lots more to prove that they couldnt find a qualified US worker. The desi employers that everyone loves to hate will find it very hard to stay in business anymore.
The big IT companies like TCS and Patni who pay 40-50K to someone with 7 yrs of work exp (like I was) will now be forced to hire from the US market thus eliminating the chances of abuse. Unfortunately it will depress IT wages in India because these biggies will need to show some kind of cost savings to do work offshore otherwise most companies will decide to bring the work back since its just not worth it to handle the hassles of offshore work. But overall it will bring some kind of balance.
All a person now will need to do is get here and manage to hold on to some job for 5 years and you will be through.
Lets see how much of this bill actually makes it out. As far as I can see, I am prefectly fine with refiling my application under this new category. The hell with EB based green cards. USCIS can take the whole EB1-EB2-EB3 and stick it where it belongs.
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aadimanav
08-22 02:09 PM
What is ur PD, Diptam?
hey aadimanav,
If the legislations dont change - my estimate would be even more than
7 years (come on they already have 500k pending app before this 300k
July2nd boom).
What Franklin said very logical - very realistic !
Thanks,
Diptam
hey aadimanav,
If the legislations dont change - my estimate would be even more than
7 years (come on they already have 500k pending app before this 300k
July2nd boom).
What Franklin said very logical - very realistic !
Thanks,
Diptam
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gceverywhere
03-19 02:55 PM
What are you talking about? Let me have two of whatever you are smoking or drinking.
You have it all wrong. Your experience or qualification DO NOT QUALIFY you for EB2. It is the requirement of JOB that matters. GOT IT.
Now go scream your lungs out in front of the Capitol, Yelling "DISCRIMINATION".:mad:
Instead of finding his faults, wouldn't it be easier to show some empathy to the point he is raising?
IV has to do something specifically for EB3 I soon or else we'll lose the confidence of a lot of supporters. 2001...are you kidding me?
You have it all wrong. Your experience or qualification DO NOT QUALIFY you for EB2. It is the requirement of JOB that matters. GOT IT.
Now go scream your lungs out in front of the Capitol, Yelling "DISCRIMINATION".:mad:
Instead of finding his faults, wouldn't it be easier to show some empathy to the point he is raising?
IV has to do something specifically for EB3 I soon or else we'll lose the confidence of a lot of supporters. 2001...are you kidding me?
485Mbe4001
07-22 02:04 PM
I have sent letters and contacted my congressman so many times that i am beinging to doubt that they even care. The staff understands the issue, provide sympathetic answers, but overall there is little progress. Everyone agrees that this bill is good and non controvertial.
I sent 5 letters, to congressman, senators and Mr. President also. (over reaction, isn't it?%$)
Gurus, keep sending letters this is good for EB3-I.. I guess...
I sent 5 letters, to congressman, senators and Mr. President also. (over reaction, isn't it?%$)
Gurus, keep sending letters this is good for EB3-I.. I guess...
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sdrblr
08-27 11:30 AM
I say my chance is 88.25% of getting approved :). Don't ask me how I got this number. All that I know is optimism is free
I checked with some folks who have got GCs in the past and they mentioned that FP (2nd time ) is not needed.....unlike the minds of USCIS one's FP doesn't change over his lifetime...that said..if you apply renew EAD u can get FP notice....
But if 15 month rule of FP is correct then very few will get approved as very few have received 2nd FP notice....so I am not sure what is good or bad...we need to know if the folks who had got FP notice had recently renewed their EADs or not.
I am current next month but I rate my odds as 2/98 meaning 2% chance of getting clear.....taking into account RD/ND/transfer/FP all vagaries into account....even Indian monsoon is more predictable.
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I checked with some folks who have got GCs in the past and they mentioned that FP (2nd time ) is not needed.....unlike the minds of USCIS one's FP doesn't change over his lifetime...that said..if you apply renew EAD u can get FP notice....
But if 15 month rule of FP is correct then very few will get approved as very few have received 2nd FP notice....so I am not sure what is good or bad...we need to know if the folks who had got FP notice had recently renewed their EADs or not.
I am current next month but I rate my odds as 2/98 meaning 2% chance of getting clear.....taking into account RD/ND/transfer/FP all vagaries into account....even Indian monsoon is more predictable.
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hebron
04-27 02:13 PM
Can anybody answer this question - If an employer decides to port an EB3 case to EB2 for an employee not using the experience gained at the job, does the new EB2 role have to be 50% different from EB3 role?
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GooblyWoobly
09-20 03:36 AM
those people are too busy on the tracker threads now
"Those people???". What do you mean by that? These are people who are trying to get permanent residency on their own right, based on the skills they have honed for years. I don't like the condescending tone of your voice. What makes you better?
"Those people???". What do you mean by that? These are people who are trying to get permanent residency on their own right, based on the skills they have honed for years. I don't like the condescending tone of your voice. What makes you better?
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sachuin23
04-20 11:45 AM
Obama has done something. He made sure that we are in this pell mall because democrats are not getting additional 12 million supporters. Had he been only 50% passionate towards immigration as he was towards Health Care, we as well as millions of others would have been out of this mess. Lets see :). I am expecting a surprise before 2012 elections.
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amitjoey
07-10 12:18 PM
Core members,
I think flowers comaign is a good idea. But I wanted to know why don't we send letters and emails to Mr.Aytes and USCIS Director and probably HEads of DOS to issue the 182,000 unused visas since 2000 now so USCIS can work on those visas from July to October.
NYTimes article mentioned that DOS officials did not want this years number wasted like the 182,000 visas got unused since 2000.
Can someone come up with a writing so we can all send emails and postals mails with this request.
They need a mandate from the congress to do it, once in the past, during the clinton administration, they got the "GO" to use up unused visas.
The current administration dosent want to do that, that is exactly why we need more awareness in the media and the congress.
I think flowers comaign is a good idea. But I wanted to know why don't we send letters and emails to Mr.Aytes and USCIS Director and probably HEads of DOS to issue the 182,000 unused visas since 2000 now so USCIS can work on those visas from July to October.
NYTimes article mentioned that DOS officials did not want this years number wasted like the 182,000 visas got unused since 2000.
Can someone come up with a writing so we can all send emails and postals mails with this request.
They need a mandate from the congress to do it, once in the past, during the clinton administration, they got the "GO" to use up unused visas.
The current administration dosent want to do that, that is exactly why we need more awareness in the media and the congress.
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lfgc
03-28 08:34 AM
Wow PCS, your case is great example!!!
I vote for PCS
I agree...PCS seems like an excellent candidate for this need.
Without delaying further...someone from the IV team can take this up IMMED...so that the ground work can be done in preparing for the testimony.
Appreciate the great work being done by IV!!
rgds.
I vote for PCS
I agree...PCS seems like an excellent candidate for this need.
Without delaying further...someone from the IV team can take this up IMMED...so that the ground work can be done in preparing for the testimony.
Appreciate the great work being done by IV!!
rgds.
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anadimisra
09-15 03:01 PM
There is no big secret, except little bit of planning and starting something.
I came here in 1997(at 22), but was in school for 2 years, started working in 1999. As soon as I started, I put money in 401k. I married early in 2000(I was only 25 then), my wife already did her M.S by then, she started working in 2000 even before our marriage. I made her put into her 401k(max out most of the time), we also put into esop. Together we have 300k in investment assests in 401k. Then I started a brokerage account and put 1500 every month, that accumualted to 150k now.
I brought house early, as soon as I am out of PT, with in first year of H-1, it didn't appreciate much but I still have an equity of 200k in primary house(I took 15 year mortgage) and I brought another house, that I rent out which as an equity of 50k. I have some cash. I brought couple of plots in india and also constructing an house in my native town in India.
But i want to do something else, I am happy with my life, for last two years, I got into golf, tennis and exercise, trying to be physically fit. I used to worry about GC before, not any more, whatever happens will happen.
Except that I am not progressing ahead in my carreer, I want to do MBA and get into something else. Right now most of my money goes to day care for two of my kids around 24,000.
More than money, you have to develop right habits, be healthy and have positive attitude.
In my case, Secrets of my lifestyle are
1. Getting started early, buying an house at 26. STarting 401k early.
2. Marrying a girl, who is already working.
3. Maxing my 401k and esop plan.
Marrying a girl , who is already working??????????????
If we are at this level of compromise, marry a millionaire's only daughter or a multi-millionaire's daughter (any number of kids) ;-) I'm sure you will find many.
or mary a citizen.
I came here in 1997(at 22), but was in school for 2 years, started working in 1999. As soon as I started, I put money in 401k. I married early in 2000(I was only 25 then), my wife already did her M.S by then, she started working in 2000 even before our marriage. I made her put into her 401k(max out most of the time), we also put into esop. Together we have 300k in investment assests in 401k. Then I started a brokerage account and put 1500 every month, that accumualted to 150k now.
I brought house early, as soon as I am out of PT, with in first year of H-1, it didn't appreciate much but I still have an equity of 200k in primary house(I took 15 year mortgage) and I brought another house, that I rent out which as an equity of 50k. I have some cash. I brought couple of plots in india and also constructing an house in my native town in India.
But i want to do something else, I am happy with my life, for last two years, I got into golf, tennis and exercise, trying to be physically fit. I used to worry about GC before, not any more, whatever happens will happen.
Except that I am not progressing ahead in my carreer, I want to do MBA and get into something else. Right now most of my money goes to day care for two of my kids around 24,000.
More than money, you have to develop right habits, be healthy and have positive attitude.
In my case, Secrets of my lifestyle are
1. Getting started early, buying an house at 26. STarting 401k early.
2. Marrying a girl, who is already working.
3. Maxing my 401k and esop plan.
Marrying a girl , who is already working??????????????
If we are at this level of compromise, marry a millionaire's only daughter or a multi-millionaire's daughter (any number of kids) ;-) I'm sure you will find many.
or mary a citizen.
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h1techSlave
03-10 08:43 PM
Sure, your point is very much valid. What I understand from the Freakenomics experiment and EB3I behavior with respect to IV is that only a few folks have the perseverance to go all the way from D to B.
Take 100 folks with C grade and give them the $50 offer for B. May be 80% will reach that goal. (I do not recall the actual results of the experiment).
Take 100 folks with D grade and give them the $50 offer for B. Ideally we should see 80% of folks improving their grade to a C (one level up). But in real life only may be half as much (40%) will actually improve their grades to a C.
Interesting experiment, and I can see that is how human beings respond sometimes.
However we are guaranteed something in return when we TRY to do what we believe in, regardless of the odds as we see them: the satisfaction of DOING something about it, and a real shot at getting what we want.
Easy to try it. Pick anything, literally anything about your life you want to change (from changing your job to losing weight to calling up your parents more frequently).
Then WITHOUT THE FEAR OF FAILURE, do something about it. It will either work out, which will be terrific. Or it won't... maybe you don't success at that job interview after all, or you still put on weight. Even then, the satisfaction that comes from having TRIED is yours to keep! (Personally, I have found this to be more motivating for trying those things again, as opposed to the hopelessness that results from not trying and then seeing things not improve.) And of course, since failure is only one of two possibilities that there can be, you do succeed 50% of the times that you try honestly!
In case of IV's efforts including the upcoming Advocacy Day, that is exactly how I feel.
Take 100 folks with C grade and give them the $50 offer for B. May be 80% will reach that goal. (I do not recall the actual results of the experiment).
Take 100 folks with D grade and give them the $50 offer for B. Ideally we should see 80% of folks improving their grade to a C (one level up). But in real life only may be half as much (40%) will actually improve their grades to a C.
Interesting experiment, and I can see that is how human beings respond sometimes.
However we are guaranteed something in return when we TRY to do what we believe in, regardless of the odds as we see them: the satisfaction of DOING something about it, and a real shot at getting what we want.
Easy to try it. Pick anything, literally anything about your life you want to change (from changing your job to losing weight to calling up your parents more frequently).
Then WITHOUT THE FEAR OF FAILURE, do something about it. It will either work out, which will be terrific. Or it won't... maybe you don't success at that job interview after all, or you still put on weight. Even then, the satisfaction that comes from having TRIED is yours to keep! (Personally, I have found this to be more motivating for trying those things again, as opposed to the hopelessness that results from not trying and then seeing things not improve.) And of course, since failure is only one of two possibilities that there can be, you do succeed 50% of the times that you try honestly!
In case of IV's efforts including the upcoming Advocacy Day, that is exactly how I feel.
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realizeit
02-11 12:05 PM
This is an amazing forum, and I would like to thank you all for the useful information.
I know, it's going to be a long journey, but a start would definitely help.
Thanks, :)
You may have an alternate option without taking the MS...
See the following link: RAMPS International INC. - Immigration Information (http://www.rampscorp.com/immigration.htm)
In the case of H1 it says: "....An accredited United States evaluation company can provide an evaluation whereby three years of progressive work experience are considered equivalent to one year of college education in the event the foreign national has only a three year bachelors degree....".
So, I think it is really worthy to explore whether it is possible to convert 3 years of experience into 1 year equivalent of education.
I do not think, you really need to take an MS to be considered for EB2. Contact Murthy law firm, I think they will definitely be able to handle difficult cases like this.
Or else, you just take a 20 minute appointment with one of their experienced lawyers and they will be able to give you a firm answer. It costs somewhere between $150 and $250 for a 20 mt appointment.
I know, it's going to be a long journey, but a start would definitely help.
Thanks, :)
You may have an alternate option without taking the MS...
See the following link: RAMPS International INC. - Immigration Information (http://www.rampscorp.com/immigration.htm)
In the case of H1 it says: "....An accredited United States evaluation company can provide an evaluation whereby three years of progressive work experience are considered equivalent to one year of college education in the event the foreign national has only a three year bachelors degree....".
So, I think it is really worthy to explore whether it is possible to convert 3 years of experience into 1 year equivalent of education.
I do not think, you really need to take an MS to be considered for EB2. Contact Murthy law firm, I think they will definitely be able to handle difficult cases like this.
Or else, you just take a 20 minute appointment with one of their experienced lawyers and they will be able to give you a firm answer. It costs somewhere between $150 and $250 for a 20 mt appointment.
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rockstart
03-18 10:15 AM
I think what ever step we take has to be organized and inclusive of all groups. It is not like last year EB2 pulled out a smart trick to receive the spill over. I mean they were all suprised & shocked to see dates go forward as were other folks on this forum. So trying to unite Eb3 by kind of blaming Eb2 or Chinese or ROW or for that matter anybody will not be very productive. Remember we are facing immigration opponents who are well organized, united and well funded. They have years of experience in lobbying and using media to their advantage. We are a tiny minority and if we further fracture it besed on nationality or category of filing all we will do is weaken our case further. We should focus our efforts for EB reforms across all categories and I think the best way is to follow the direction of the IV leadership on this isssue.
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mallu
06-21 08:24 PM
Those of you who are now thinking that being able to file 485 will give you freedom - just read through the list to see how many 485 filers (mainly Indians and Chinese) are stuck in the name check russian roullette.
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?nc082505
This is one of the biggest bottleneck to 485 and naturalization processing. Most would think it would catch moslems - in reality it catches anyone in "hi-tech" and more often than not Indians, Chinese and Russians. And ofcourse Koreans too. One of the person's stuck in name check commented on the above link - if the FBI knew that a fifth of the nation shares the last name Kim! I guess the same would go for Wu, Yu, Zhou, Singh, Kumar etc.
Different problems at different stages in the path to GC !
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?nc082505
This is one of the biggest bottleneck to 485 and naturalization processing. Most would think it would catch moslems - in reality it catches anyone in "hi-tech" and more often than not Indians, Chinese and Russians. And ofcourse Koreans too. One of the person's stuck in name check commented on the above link - if the FBI knew that a fifth of the nation shares the last name Kim! I guess the same would go for Wu, Yu, Zhou, Singh, Kumar etc.
Different problems at different stages in the path to GC !
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srinithati
11-03 05:50 PM
try using Traveler checks(TC).
One can go to any major bank and purchase TC, Upto 5000 US $ is allowed legally.
but they may make entry in the borrower Indian Passport.
One can go to any major bank and purchase TC, Upto 5000 US $ is allowed legally.
but they may make entry in the borrower Indian Passport.
ItIsNotFunny
04-14 02:23 PM
Keep it up! 10K this month...
kevinkris
11-03 12:24 PM
I know this is not releated with Immigration. If you dont want to answer, that is fine. Just ignore this.
I have money crunch in US. I have accumulated huge debt in my CC. In past I have sent some money to India, but now when I ask my parents to send it here, they tell it is not possible without losing 30%. This is what they heard from my bank. Any Idea on how to get money from India from my own account to which I have sent from here.
It's simple.. Find some one in your friend circle who wants to send money to india and tell him that you will transfer rupees to his bank account in india and ask him to transfer dollars to ur account here.
Simple.. that's how i did last time..
good luck to get our of debt..
I have money crunch in US. I have accumulated huge debt in my CC. In past I have sent some money to India, but now when I ask my parents to send it here, they tell it is not possible without losing 30%. This is what they heard from my bank. Any Idea on how to get money from India from my own account to which I have sent from here.
It's simple.. Find some one in your friend circle who wants to send money to india and tell him that you will transfer rupees to his bank account in india and ask him to transfer dollars to ur account here.
Simple.. that's how i did last time..
good luck to get our of debt..
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