WaldenPond
02-24 10:47 PM
Waldenpond,
It was my second contribution...
Thanks
Hello wrldnw4me,
Sorry about that. I did not realize....
Thank You for the continued support and contribution.....whole of IV team really appreciate your help and good work.
Kind Regards,
WaldenPond
It was my second contribution...
Thanks
Hello wrldnw4me,
Sorry about that. I did not realize....
Thank You for the continued support and contribution.....whole of IV team really appreciate your help and good work.
Kind Regards,
WaldenPond
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makemygc
07-06 10:20 AM
Hey guys,
I have a question to all of you...
AILA prepares the lawsuit and some (probably most) of the lawyers are supporting that.
For several days I keep hearing that WHEN you file (in July) is not important and I am wondering how that could be true...
I understand that the people who filed on July 2nd are beneficiaries of this but in my mind, everybody who files after falls under a different category because technically they would file after the revised bulletin was announced therefore have no argument. I understand that everybody else prepared (legal fees, medical exam and so on) and they are affected even if they didn't file but I am wondering how that can be justification enough after the dates (retrogression) were announced.
I am trying to understand why they say that it does not matter when you file. They need more people to back this up or is just so they can justify billing you for their work...
Is just scary, how many people play with our hopes and I need to understand if this is just to serve somebody's interests or it is what it is .
Please post your 2 cents ...
Thanks !
AILA has expanded the definition of the plaintiff to cover all the july filings but it does not mean that you will be beneficiary if you have just filed in July. You either have to be a plaintiff or member of the class action (if judge allows). That also does not guarantee that you will get the benefit if lawsuit is won. As per AILF, only limited number of visa will be made available upon winning the lawsuit and that will cover only people who filed early in July. All depends upon number of visa made available, number of applications filed and out of those how many are part of class action lawsuit.
See this excerpts from immigration-law:-
The AILF is currently developing a lawsuit against the USCIS and the DOS. As reported earlier, apparently the AILF has been successful in finding the potential plaintiffs for the lawsuit. The plaintiffs will automatically become members of the class in the class action who will get the relief if they win in the lawsuit. The details of the relief this lawsuit is pursuing are articulated in the AILF's Visa Bulletin Lawsuit FAQ. For the summary, please click here.
The lawsuit team lawyers are still developing the strategies and details of the members of the class this lawsuit will cover who are not members of the plaintiffs. As they move along, the details can be changed, but according to the FAQ, membership of the class would require filing of EB I-485 applications in July 2007. Accordingly, those who fail to file EB I-485 applications are likely not included in the membership and will not be able to receive the fruits of the litigation, once the class wins in the litigation. Relevant to the issue of when the EB I-485 should be filed to receive the benefit as a class member is the number of July visa numbers which will be made available to the members of the winning class of the lawsuit. Obviously, the visa numbers will be limited in numbers. The members of the class will have to compete each other for the numbers. According to the FAQ, the number will be taken under the principle First In First Out bases. Accordingly, the earlier his/her EB I-485 is filed, the better the chance of getting the number before they are exhausted. It appears that those who fail to get the numbers are likely to be left out of any benefits of the litigation.
It thus appears that some people may want to file the EB I-485 applications with the full knowledge that the applications will be rejected and returned by the USCIS, just to become a member of the class of this lawsuit. Consdering the fact that some visa numbers may become available in October 2007 for certain people, they may be less desperate and eager in seeking membership of the class of the lawsuite. While, the nationals of ovesubscribed countries such as India, China, Mexico, and Philippines will need the fruits of this litigation much more desperately than the people from other countries. Additionally, EB-3 people may have such need more than EB-1 or EB-2 since when new visa numbers become available in October, the EB-3 numbers are likely more oversubscribed than EB-1 and EB-2. Lastly, the lower the priority date is, the more they will need the fruit of the litigation as the higher priority date applicants will have a better chance to get their priority date becoming current in October or soon thereafter. These variants should give a guide to the people to determine whether or not they should file EB I-485 applications to become a member of the class.
However, these factors alone should not be considered absolute determinants in deciding whether they should file the EB I-485 applications in July. The FAQ indicates that the downside of becoming a member of the class by filing EB I-485 applications in July is potential extensive and in-depth scrutiny of the cases by the USCIS to weed out the applicants on the ground of ineligibility of I-485 applications. Accordingly, people with some potential issues of whatever nature may be considered poor candidates for the membership of the class. The straight forward case should be considerred a better candidate for filing EB I-485 applications in July, while those with some potential wrinkes in the case may stay away from filing the application in July.
For the foregoing reasons, people should seek assessment of one's case by legal counsel for appropriateness of filing EB I-485 now and becoming a potential member of the class of the lawsuit. It is absolutely no and no to jump into filing the applications without the appropriate legal counsel.
I have a question to all of you...
AILA prepares the lawsuit and some (probably most) of the lawyers are supporting that.
For several days I keep hearing that WHEN you file (in July) is not important and I am wondering how that could be true...
I understand that the people who filed on July 2nd are beneficiaries of this but in my mind, everybody who files after falls under a different category because technically they would file after the revised bulletin was announced therefore have no argument. I understand that everybody else prepared (legal fees, medical exam and so on) and they are affected even if they didn't file but I am wondering how that can be justification enough after the dates (retrogression) were announced.
I am trying to understand why they say that it does not matter when you file. They need more people to back this up or is just so they can justify billing you for their work...
Is just scary, how many people play with our hopes and I need to understand if this is just to serve somebody's interests or it is what it is .
Please post your 2 cents ...
Thanks !
AILA has expanded the definition of the plaintiff to cover all the july filings but it does not mean that you will be beneficiary if you have just filed in July. You either have to be a plaintiff or member of the class action (if judge allows). That also does not guarantee that you will get the benefit if lawsuit is won. As per AILF, only limited number of visa will be made available upon winning the lawsuit and that will cover only people who filed early in July. All depends upon number of visa made available, number of applications filed and out of those how many are part of class action lawsuit.
See this excerpts from immigration-law:-
The AILF is currently developing a lawsuit against the USCIS and the DOS. As reported earlier, apparently the AILF has been successful in finding the potential plaintiffs for the lawsuit. The plaintiffs will automatically become members of the class in the class action who will get the relief if they win in the lawsuit. The details of the relief this lawsuit is pursuing are articulated in the AILF's Visa Bulletin Lawsuit FAQ. For the summary, please click here.
The lawsuit team lawyers are still developing the strategies and details of the members of the class this lawsuit will cover who are not members of the plaintiffs. As they move along, the details can be changed, but according to the FAQ, membership of the class would require filing of EB I-485 applications in July 2007. Accordingly, those who fail to file EB I-485 applications are likely not included in the membership and will not be able to receive the fruits of the litigation, once the class wins in the litigation. Relevant to the issue of when the EB I-485 should be filed to receive the benefit as a class member is the number of July visa numbers which will be made available to the members of the winning class of the lawsuit. Obviously, the visa numbers will be limited in numbers. The members of the class will have to compete each other for the numbers. According to the FAQ, the number will be taken under the principle First In First Out bases. Accordingly, the earlier his/her EB I-485 is filed, the better the chance of getting the number before they are exhausted. It appears that those who fail to get the numbers are likely to be left out of any benefits of the litigation.
It thus appears that some people may want to file the EB I-485 applications with the full knowledge that the applications will be rejected and returned by the USCIS, just to become a member of the class of this lawsuit. Consdering the fact that some visa numbers may become available in October 2007 for certain people, they may be less desperate and eager in seeking membership of the class of the lawsuite. While, the nationals of ovesubscribed countries such as India, China, Mexico, and Philippines will need the fruits of this litigation much more desperately than the people from other countries. Additionally, EB-3 people may have such need more than EB-1 or EB-2 since when new visa numbers become available in October, the EB-3 numbers are likely more oversubscribed than EB-1 and EB-2. Lastly, the lower the priority date is, the more they will need the fruit of the litigation as the higher priority date applicants will have a better chance to get their priority date becoming current in October or soon thereafter. These variants should give a guide to the people to determine whether or not they should file EB I-485 applications to become a member of the class.
However, these factors alone should not be considered absolute determinants in deciding whether they should file the EB I-485 applications in July. The FAQ indicates that the downside of becoming a member of the class by filing EB I-485 applications in July is potential extensive and in-depth scrutiny of the cases by the USCIS to weed out the applicants on the ground of ineligibility of I-485 applications. Accordingly, people with some potential issues of whatever nature may be considered poor candidates for the membership of the class. The straight forward case should be considerred a better candidate for filing EB I-485 applications in July, while those with some potential wrinkes in the case may stay away from filing the application in July.
For the foregoing reasons, people should seek assessment of one's case by legal counsel for appropriateness of filing EB I-485 now and becoming a potential member of the class of the lawsuit. It is absolutely no and no to jump into filing the applications without the appropriate legal counsel.
asp
04-26 05:04 PM
Great job guys! Keep up the good work. The article has given much needed exposure to the problems of Employment Based Green Card Process and the plight of skilled workers from India and China. I am really happy that ImmigrationVoice has taken this endenvor and are pursuing it so professionally. I am going ahead and contributing $200 for the efforts.
All the Best
asp
All the Best
asp
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siddar
05-13 03:14 PM
As I see, most of you are missing the point. Instead of trying to understand, you showing the maturity of mind. The whole purpose of EB immigration is to meet the Demand(Job opportunities) vs the supply(immediately available candidates).
When there are a lot of opportunities exists for EB3 level(skilled profession) and less opportunities exists for EB1(Ph.D/Executive Director), USCIS should give more no. of Visas to EB3, then EB1.
A country cannot be built with only the kings, and not even a home can be built with only Ph.Ds(Nobody do the dishes).
When there are a lot of opportunities exists for EB3 level(skilled profession) and less opportunities exists for EB1(Ph.D/Executive Director), USCIS should give more no. of Visas to EB3, then EB1.
A country cannot be built with only the kings, and not even a home can be built with only Ph.Ds(Nobody do the dishes).
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srisri007
05-06 08:48 AM
Hi,
I have 3 yrs degree + 1 yr PG diploma. I have been working in industry for past 17 years, and don't think any degree or even doctorate would add much to my qualification for the job that I am doing.
I am currently filed in EB3 category, and new company I am changing job to are ready to refile my GC. But they won't file my GC in EB2 category, as I don't meet the 4 yr BS requirement.
My son will be in the highschool in 4 years, and I don't want to spend a lot of money on getting MS to myself. But for the GC I am looking for fastest and cheapest way to get MS program. I have no idea how it works, what qualifies me for a degree, what can I get credits for. Any inputs would be appreciated.
Thanks!
Hi GC_rip,
I am as well in the similar situation as you are in. I am looking to do MS from Aspen University. Its is full online program and it costs approximately $4000 to complete masters program. I have been trying to know more about that university and until now I did not hear anything bad about the university except that the univerisity is Nationally accredited university. I am trying to know whether USCIS accepts Masters from Aspen University. Please let me know if you have got any information regarding this.
I have 3 yrs degree + 1 yr PG diploma. I have been working in industry for past 17 years, and don't think any degree or even doctorate would add much to my qualification for the job that I am doing.
I am currently filed in EB3 category, and new company I am changing job to are ready to refile my GC. But they won't file my GC in EB2 category, as I don't meet the 4 yr BS requirement.
My son will be in the highschool in 4 years, and I don't want to spend a lot of money on getting MS to myself. But for the GC I am looking for fastest and cheapest way to get MS program. I have no idea how it works, what qualifies me for a degree, what can I get credits for. Any inputs would be appreciated.
Thanks!
Hi GC_rip,
I am as well in the similar situation as you are in. I am looking to do MS from Aspen University. Its is full online program and it costs approximately $4000 to complete masters program. I have been trying to know more about that university and until now I did not hear anything bad about the university except that the univerisity is Nationally accredited university. I am trying to know whether USCIS accepts Masters from Aspen University. Please let me know if you have got any information regarding this.
greyhair
05-24 09:00 AM
I have reserved the air tickets to do meetings in Washington. I am willing to buy tickets for 1 more person. If anyone needs help in buying tickets please send me a private message. Looking forward to working with everyone.
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seekerofpeace
08-27 10:59 AM
I checked with some folks who have got GCs in the past and they mentioned that FP (2nd time ) is not needed.....unlike the minds of USCIS one's FP doesn't change over his lifetime...that said..if you apply renew EAD u can get FP notice....
But if 15 month rule of FP is correct then very few will get approved as very few have received 2nd FP notice....so I am not sure what is good or bad...we need to know if the folks who had got FP notice had recently renewed their EADs or not.
I am current next month but I rate my odds as 2/98 meaning 2% chance of getting clear.....taking into account RD/ND/transfer/FP all vagaries into account....even Indian monsoon is more predictable.
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But if 15 month rule of FP is correct then very few will get approved as very few have received 2nd FP notice....so I am not sure what is good or bad...we need to know if the folks who had got FP notice had recently renewed their EADs or not.
I am current next month but I rate my odds as 2/98 meaning 2% chance of getting clear.....taking into account RD/ND/transfer/FP all vagaries into account....even Indian monsoon is more predictable.
SoP
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bigboy007
05-28 02:48 PM
CAdude , Your efforts greatly appreciated. But how come 100,000 Applicants are being applied again for New merit system ? Is it becoz they are looking for all current Labor petetions being not approved ? as current legislation says I140's pending or approved as of May 21 2007 continue in current system . Please advice.
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07-16 11:12 PM
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GCKaMaara
04-06 12:02 AM
All,
The object of this thread is straightforward - it is to understand if you as a donor member will contribute more $ (or start contributing!) if you get more regular information updates (weekly?) from Core? I know there was a funding drive in March which led to us meeting the goal of $10,000 (and then some). However, while there has been a new goal of $10,000 created for April, we have made little progress towards that. As someone who contributed $100 the first time round in March, but haven't yet made a contribution towards the April funding drive, I can admit that one of the primary reasons for this is because there has been very limited information shared since then. While I COMPLETELY trust in the fact that the Core team is making every effort humanly possible to further our cause, I am also a member of the human race that by nature seeks information and looks for leadership to be more sharing about progress. I personally believe transparency is a key enabler not just to gaining participation and building momentum, but also to creating innovative solutions to problems by engaging more individuals in the process (borrowing this "leaf" from President's Obama's playbook will be highly beneficial to our casuse)
Let me clarify this is NOT an indication of lack of trust in Core NOR do I believe that there isn't a sincere effort being put in by a whole bunch of dedicated individuals. However, my suggestion is simply an idea to further the cause - would definitely like to hear how the rest of this immigration community feels!
Thanks for your participation in this poll.
Cheers
P.S: Just to be clear, I am referring to Regular Updates to DONORS i.e CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS
Answer to your question: Yes.
Few questions roaming in my mind:
1. I am not clear what is core? All I know is Pappu so far. Who are the other members? What do they do? What is distribution of responsibilities? Hows core team formed? Do we or "donors" elect core every year?
The object of this thread is straightforward - it is to understand if you as a donor member will contribute more $ (or start contributing!) if you get more regular information updates (weekly?) from Core? I know there was a funding drive in March which led to us meeting the goal of $10,000 (and then some). However, while there has been a new goal of $10,000 created for April, we have made little progress towards that. As someone who contributed $100 the first time round in March, but haven't yet made a contribution towards the April funding drive, I can admit that one of the primary reasons for this is because there has been very limited information shared since then. While I COMPLETELY trust in the fact that the Core team is making every effort humanly possible to further our cause, I am also a member of the human race that by nature seeks information and looks for leadership to be more sharing about progress. I personally believe transparency is a key enabler not just to gaining participation and building momentum, but also to creating innovative solutions to problems by engaging more individuals in the process (borrowing this "leaf" from President's Obama's playbook will be highly beneficial to our casuse)
Let me clarify this is NOT an indication of lack of trust in Core NOR do I believe that there isn't a sincere effort being put in by a whole bunch of dedicated individuals. However, my suggestion is simply an idea to further the cause - would definitely like to hear how the rest of this immigration community feels!
Thanks for your participation in this poll.
Cheers
P.S: Just to be clear, I am referring to Regular Updates to DONORS i.e CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS
Answer to your question: Yes.
Few questions roaming in my mind:
1. I am not clear what is core? All I know is Pappu so far. Who are the other members? What do they do? What is distribution of responsibilities? Hows core team formed? Do we or "donors" elect core every year?
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mpadapa
10-11 07:19 PM
How long does it take for ppl to make up their mind on a casual get together??
Come on folks participate in this poll and drop in for the meet. If I can make it to the meet by commuting for almost 2 hrs (one way) what is stopping folks who are working few subways stops away from penn st or GCT :confused:
Come on folks participate in this poll and drop in for the meet. If I can make it to the meet by commuting for almost 2 hrs (one way) what is stopping folks who are working few subways stops away from penn st or GCT :confused:
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skillet
07-19 11:36 AM
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raj3078
10-10 03:31 PM
Movt is not very bad for EB-2 India, but EB-3 India does not move!!
How much did EB2 Ind moved? I think EB-2 china moved too? correct me if I am wrong
How much did EB2 Ind moved? I think EB-2 china moved too? correct me if I am wrong
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aadimanav
08-22 04:34 PM
........ However, if a range of PD's are current, then they would sort those by RD and not by PD. .........
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There you go. Now you are talking like a programmer.
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gcpool
05-24 03:56 PM
Since the application is no longer based on an employer, then I guess you can change jobs any time. And so you dont need AC21.
Its totally based on the applicant. You have to earn the points to get a greater possibility to get it approved (Do an MS, get higher score in TOFEL, more experience in the US and yes hope your sibling gets his/her GC before you)
Also you dont need to deal with incompetent lawyers and the employers no longer have control over you.
The question that arises is that an application is valid for 3 years then its deemed denied. Does that mean you cant try again because you did not make it in the quota for that time period. And does it mean you have to go back.
Please correct me if I am wrong
Its totally based on the applicant. You have to earn the points to get a greater possibility to get it approved (Do an MS, get higher score in TOFEL, more experience in the US and yes hope your sibling gets his/her GC before you)
Also you dont need to deal with incompetent lawyers and the employers no longer have control over you.
The question that arises is that an application is valid for 3 years then its deemed denied. Does that mean you cant try again because you did not make it in the quota for that time period. And does it mean you have to go back.
Please correct me if I am wrong
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jsb
01-16 08:32 AM
My PD has been current quite a few times since 06/2007. Last time when I called TSC, my NC was still pending. My FP was done during 07/07 and I heard from some one in this thread that FP is valid for 15 months only. So what should I do now. Should I go for an infopass and take an FP appointment ? Guys please advise.
It appears that you are EB2-ROW. With that old PD, you should definitely take an Infopass and ask what is holding up. As per regulations they are not supposed to wait for NC for more than 180 days, unless something suggesting "name not cleared" has been provided by FBI
It appears that you are EB2-ROW. With that old PD, you should definitely take an Infopass and ask what is holding up. As per regulations they are not supposed to wait for NC for more than 180 days, unless something suggesting "name not cleared" has been provided by FBI
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chanduv23
04-08 02:01 PM
We all admit, the we haven't served our birth land as much as we have served America. Maybe there is calling here amongst all the turmoil with getting GCs.
Our home country wants us back. I know we have huge issues back in India. Population, Politician :-) etc etc.
U r funny. Just because H1b is being made tough, you want to serve your country, so if you get a Green Card will you not server your country? :D :D :D
Our home country wants us back. I know we have huge issues back in India. Population, Politician :-) etc etc.
U r funny. Just because H1b is being made tough, you want to serve your country, so if you get a Green Card will you not server your country? :D :D :D
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jethro11
08-19 02:47 PM
Hi,
I e-mailed and faxed the green card recapture bill support campaign to the KY senators and rep:
Sen Mitch McConnell
Sen Jim Bunning
Rep Ron Lewis
I am mailing out the letters to them tomorrow. Will keep you all posted if they reply.
I e-mailed and faxed the green card recapture bill support campaign to the KY senators and rep:
Sen Mitch McConnell
Sen Jim Bunning
Rep Ron Lewis
I am mailing out the letters to them tomorrow. Will keep you all posted if they reply.
jsb
08-03 04:27 PM
What makes people think that USCIS has preadjudicated cases in the order of priority date. If they have preadjudicated cases from 2005,2006 and left the cases from 2003 -2004 then it is the same mess an d i can bet that knowing USCIS chance of this are very very high so even if your date gets current it is still luck whether you get GC ornot.
EB2 - I
PD: Jul 2004
While everything appears at USCIS to work randomly, but there is some order. They claim, and also follow, that they process application in order they receive. "Process" means to open a case the first time, and order they "receive" means when a center enters a case data in the system (this date is close to ND). Until this point, PD has no role to play. Described processes work well for non-retrogressed cases (for countries other than India, China, etc.). If a case is opened, and its all in order to clear except the visa availability, it is called preadjudication. Procedures described (see link below, although they may have changed since), state that once case is preadjudicated, they should be ordered in PD sequence for further work.
http://www.ilw.com/seminars/august2002_citation2b.pdf
Of course, if there is nothing preadjudicated, cases will go in sequence of "received date", which is close to ND, as PD is not even recorded in the system anywhere until a case file is opened.
EB2 - I
PD: Jul 2004
While everything appears at USCIS to work randomly, but there is some order. They claim, and also follow, that they process application in order they receive. "Process" means to open a case the first time, and order they "receive" means when a center enters a case data in the system (this date is close to ND). Until this point, PD has no role to play. Described processes work well for non-retrogressed cases (for countries other than India, China, etc.). If a case is opened, and its all in order to clear except the visa availability, it is called preadjudication. Procedures described (see link below, although they may have changed since), state that once case is preadjudicated, they should be ordered in PD sequence for further work.
http://www.ilw.com/seminars/august2002_citation2b.pdf
Of course, if there is nothing preadjudicated, cases will go in sequence of "received date", which is close to ND, as PD is not even recorded in the system anywhere until a case file is opened.
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06-10 02:16 PM
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mnq1979 you have posted your question is the wrong thread and you might not get any response here since this thread is about gun ownership; ppl who are not interested in the gun ownership topic will not visit this thread.
mnq1979 you have posted your question is the wrong thread and you might not get any response here since this thread is about gun ownership; ppl who are not interested in the gun ownership topic will not visit this thread.
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